Sunday, January 31, 2010
Readings Feb 1 - Feb 5
Friday, January 29, 2010
Obedience and Sacrifice
Sunday, January 24, 2010
Readings Jan 25-30
Saturday, January 23, 2010
Progression of events and progression
I think the progression of events after the big choice in the Garden of Eden is very interesting. I’m not sure that it’s all recorded in the right progression, I’ll have to look that up. But, for right now, I’ll list them out. Have you figured out by now that I like lists. Ask my DH, he’ll tell you how much I like lists.
- Eve and Adam cast out of the garden and they work. Mos 5:1
- Eve and Adam have children and they have children and they work. 5:2-3
- Eve and Adam pray and receive commandments from the Lord. Namely to sacrifice.
- Adam is asked why he is sacrificing. Adam doesn’t know why, but is obedient. 5:6
- Adam is told that the sacrifice is a “similitude of the sacrifice of the Only Begotten of the Father.” And is told to do all things in his name. 5:7-8
Now I’m not sure of the accuracy of the progression of events here or about when Adam and Eve learned which things. But if this progression is accurate, Eve and Adam and their families lived quite a while being obedient to the law of sacrifice without even knowing why and have lived without the Holy Ghost in their lives which we will see in the next verses:
- The Holy Ghost fell upon Adam and received testimony of the Savior. 5:9
- Adam is spiritually reborn and now understands that his transgression was necessary and that despite his transgression he will be able to have joy. Eve discovers this as well. 5:10-11
- Adam and Eve teach their children the doctrines of the gospel. 5:12
- Satan tells them not to believe what the Lord taught them (which I believe is what he told the spirits in the pre-existence). Men become carnal, sensual and devilish. 5:13
Did they not know until Satan appeared that they could believe anything else? Maybe, since Satan provides opposition. But after the opposition is in place then men are commanded to repent.
- “The Lord Gad called upon men by the Holy Ghost everywhere and commanded them that they should repent” Whoever believes in the Son and repents of their sins will be saved. Whoever does not, will not be saved. 5:14
- Adam and Eve do not cease to call upon God. 5:16
Moses 6:48-62 gives us more information about baptism and the Holy Ghost, and that despite sin and transgression, we’ve got good news. We are not alone, we are not comfortless, we have opportunity to be cleansed. See the post below.
One awesome verse
Thursday, January 21, 2010
Snakes freak me out; questions about Satan; and then there are weeds
Sunday, January 17, 2010
Readings Jan 18-22
Friday, January 15, 2010
The Creation: conversion all over again
Monday, January 11, 2010
Readings Jan 11-15
Sunday, January 10, 2010
Afterthought - Foreordination
Friday, January 8, 2010
Answers to questions. More questions.
This conversation with Abraham and the Lord, must have been so educational. Abraham, having lived in
What is next is the Plan of Salvation. There was a pre-earth life, that spirit dwelt there, they were organized, there were noble and great ones and he was one of those. All monumental revelations that breed questions. What was the point on knowing all this?
Point: These spirits are going to live on a world. They need to be proved, tested, move on to the next part of seeking salvation. If they are going to be proved, that means there needs to be opposition, that means they might make mistakes, that means that there needs to be different kingdoms of glory. If they make mistakes they can still keep their first estate if they access the power offered by a Savior. Who is the Savior?
The Savior is the one who understood the plan, who understood where the power belonged. Now we need the opposition: the one who did not understand the plan, the one who wanted the power to transfer to himself. At this exhibition, he lost his first estate.
Now here is an interesting doctrine with not much detail. What exactly is a first estate? McConkie defines it as “the first time we lived as conscious identities. The spirits who were faithful in that first estate earned the right to be born into this world and get mortal bodies.” There is some doctrine and a lot of speculation about what we did in that first estate. Did we choose our mates? Did we choose our worldly difficulties? Did we form our families (a la Saturday’s Warrior – thanks a lot) ?
It seems to me, this is my own opinion, that at a very basic level, it doesn’t matter what we chose, other than choosing to be faithful enough to get bodies. We are here and whatever has happened to us, or whatever we have chosen, we need to deal with. A step up from the basic level, it is my current opinion, that we chose to choose. That is, we chose to have bodies so we could choose how we react to certain people and experiences, because we knew there would be a Savior. It does not seem congruent to me that a person who has been born in the covenant, has a wonderful temple marriage with children who have all served missions and married in the temple and have grandchildren following in the same way, can say that this is exactly what he/she chose in the first estate. Wouldn’t everyone choose that? Yet, very few fulfill that. Maybe those are the noble and great one, who knows. People who have had the unfortunate experiences of abuse, alcoholism, a wide variety of diseases, infidelity, I cannot believe that they chose to experience those things in the pre-earth life. First, how could they even know what those were without experiencing them, without having bodies at the time of decision?
Like I said at the before, I think we chose to choose. Which means we believed in the Plan, we believed in a Savior. Some people who believe we chose specific things in pre-earth life use that belief to get them through rough times. But shouldn’t the knowledge that we had confidence in a Savior then, be enough to get us through rough times?
Good stuff. It’s good to know where we came from and why we are here.